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Discussion starter · #21 ·
Guys,

I truly appreciate your input, BUT:


Isn't this a HUGE scope creep?

I mean, OK there is no financial sense in saving the engine, but letting the entire car go because of an engine... that is fixable but is more expensive than a secondhand 24 Valve, truly 400 bhp capable, OM606.962 Turbo...


I mean, letting this go:

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Because I have to spend 1.130,00 euros on an OM606.962 delivered to my door...

Being that the swap will be done by myself, I fail to see where I have to even consider your advice on letting the bloody car go... really...

If I were you, I would just buy a new W124 everytime the car needs tires and a full service, just because that can ammount to more than half the value of the car.
 
#22 · (Edited)
You cannot just drop a turbo OM606 into a W124. The OM606, while having roots in the OM603, is dramatically different especially in the injection pump and electronic shut off area.

Ask our moderator, Zeitgeist. He's been working on this swap for a few years now.

If this swap was truly easy, then we all would have ditched our OM602 & OM603 for a turbo'd OM606.
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
sbaert,


Zeitgeist is working for a long period on his conversion due to several issues, but none actually related to the difficulty of the convertion.

- He decided to grasp a huge amount of issues that his S124 needed to have adressed.

- He suffered personal issues that affected his income

- He sometimes planned the hardest way round a determined problem.


Is it or is it not true that the difficulties that a swap for an OM606.962 presents are the following:

- Throttle linkage IF you want to keep the W124 original cruise control
- Boost control IF you want to keep the OM606 original turbo
- Oil cooler lines interference with Intake up pipe
- Changing the OM606 pump with the OM603 pump
- Changing the OM606 flexplate for the OM603 original one


The last 2, at least for my level, are easy jobs.


If there are other issues, or it is such a hard task, then I have to admit that allot of people over here and all arround europe are true mechanical geniuses working at home.

I have swapped an S14 into a BMW'02. If you say that the 603 and 606 are completely different animals, then an M10 and a S14 are from different universes, althoug they are the same family in BMW nomenclature
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
Heck,

I have even seen a OM606 working with a 603 injection pump while dangling in an engine hoist.

There sure is some misconception over here about the OM606, from my part or yours.

Someone even alledged that the 606 had Common Rail...
 
#25 · (Edited)
I'm happy to hear to decided to save the car. The great thing about the 606 swap is that you can just drop it into the W124. You already have the 603 IP so its a bolt on affair. I hope you update with pics
good luck

Also this has finally motivated me to get rid of the mechanical vacuum pump for an electric pump ASAP. I'll probably do the swap this weekend.
thanks
 
#26 · (Edited)
I understand what you're trying to do and say. I run my OM606 with a OM603 3.5L pump. That part is easy.

The hard part is making the turbo work properly.

I plan on turbo'ing my OM606, but without using the factory system and its complicated boost control system. I have a 2 KKK turbos from a Audi S4 2.7L Biturbo that should be a good match for the 3L MB diesel.
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
You're planning on Turbocharging a OM606.910 N/A engine...


I wouldn't do that. But I've seen someone doing it.

The best way to deal with the OM606 turbocharger is replacing it.

With all the choices in Turbodiesel engines we have in Europe, Turbochargers densely populate the for sale listings...
 
#28 ·
I would not put the turbo's on my N/A engine, but only if I find a low miler/meticulously maintained turbo OM606.

As time moves forward, I am leaning more toward getting a E350 BlueTec diesel as a daily driver and leave the W124 as is for recreational use.

In other words, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
 
#29 ·
Turbocharging a 606 is NBD. Neither is getting a turbo to work on a 606?

I vote for a new engine for the OP, which reminds me I need to find out what this guy wants for his..
 
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Discussion starter · #31 ·
And It's a done deal.

Just acquired a complete OM606.962 engine with 1 year full warranty for the price of 1.130,00 euros delivered to my door.

It has 131.250 miles (because it is still installed in the salvaged car). The mileage is at least confirmed with the yearly Technical Inspections.


The downside is a 1 month wait till the engine gets delivered.
 
Discussion starter · #34 ·
Well,

There are some news on the engine front.

It turns out that someone took the OM606.962 that I had just closed the deal... :mad:


Now... there is another company that has a OM606.962 with a couple of downsides:

- The IP is missing

- The intake manifold is cracked on impact. The engine was taken from a crashed car and the manifold broke with impact.

The engine is up north, and I can't travel to check it out.

Asking price is 900 euros (roughly 1.122 USD)

I don't need the IP pump... but do need the intake manifold.

Asked the seller to send me photos of the engine and check if the IP timing gear is still present on the engine...
 
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