I was in a dilema as well with what glue to use. I chose to go with the brush on Dap Weldwood Contact Cement Glue from Lowe's. I've sprayed enough glue to know that it will go everywhere. Also have used the Contact Cement so I was familiar with it. You will most likely get glue on you or your vehicle somewhere. No sweat, Oops Multi-Purpose Remover will take it off. Whether spray or brush on, do yourself a favor and cover as much of the engine/vehicle as you can. Just a note, it might make it easier for you if your hood raises straight up and down. I didn't know mine did or I would have raised it when installing mine. Once in place, I just used a paint roller w/handle to roll it down. A friend helping might be a good idea as well.
R129 Bonnet / Hood Insulation Pad R&R
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Look at this price of $63.83 for a hood pad at Mercedes Hood Insulation Pad 1296802025 - RM European Auto Parts
It looks like we may have found a competition to AutohausAZ.com
It looks like we may have found a competition to AutohausAZ.com
Mat Glue Help
I used Dap Weldwood Contact Cement Glue and the mat did not stick, not tacky enough. What did I do wrong??
Please help.
I used Dap Weldwood Contact Cement Glue and the mat did not stick, not tacky enough. What did I do wrong??
Please help.
You didn't do anything wrong. It just plain doesn't work especially now that they have changed it's chemical make up to meet environmental regulations.
The 3M 90 Super Adhesive spray, that so many have suggested, is the way to go. The nozzle has a 1-4 output setting that worked great for me when used on the #1 setting.
In the state of California this product only comes in a very small can due to environmental regs. The only Qt. size that they have at Home Depot or Lowe's is low on VOC's and doesn't work. And if you call DAP there Support line will tell you so.
Yea, I used a little of that blue painters masking tape across the top inner and bottom inner areas with an old bed sheet covering the engine compartment. I then did the top leading edge area last and popped in the Push Pins.
The beauty of the 3M 90 Super Adhesive is that if you were to get a small amount of over spray its no problem. It comes off by rubbing with your fingers and if necessary you could also use 'Goo Off', that you can buy in your local hardware store, to get any residual off as well.
I just replaced mine a week ago and used the standard 3m product. It was easy to use and did not spray everywhere as I had anticipated. I broke off to of the pins in the front of the hood, and reused the rest. It looks great and is holding up well. I have been avoiding this job for a couple years, but after doing it with a friend am sorry that it delayed.
Having just done this, here are a few suggestions:
1. Raise the hood in the upright position.
2. Hang the pad on a wall and spray it with the adhesive.
3. Have a friend help you to install the pad.
4. Use the 3m product it is specifically designed for this type of installation..
Good luck!!
Matt
Having just done this, here are a few suggestions:
1. Raise the hood in the upright position.
2. Hang the pad on a wall and spray it with the adhesive.
3. Have a friend help you to install the pad.
4. Use the 3m product it is specifically designed for this type of installation..
Good luck!!
Matt
12 Step Program:
1) Layout the new pad on a flat surface to allow the creases to relax.
2) Lay an old sheet over the engine compartment to catch debris.
3) Scrape with a plastic scraper as much of the old pad off as possible.
Note: don't have a Heart Attach trying to get ALL of the old adhesive and pad off.
4) Use blue painters tape to mask off the top, bottom, and sides.
5) Hang pad with NEW plastic Push Rivets. Do not apply the center portion of the Push Rivets.
6) Put hood in 90 degree maintenance position.
7) Using a small ladder spray that portion of hood and pad where there was MB cement.
8) Use a 4" hard rubber wall paper roller to roll hood pad to hood.
9) When center portion is dry(about 5-10 minutes).
10) Bring hood out of 90 degree position remove blue masking tape.
11) Remove Push Rivets and spray upper portion, then insert ALL NEW Push Rivets with there center portion to lock the Rivets.
12) Now use clear 3M Hi-Strength 90 Spray Adhesive to touch-up any top or bottom loose edges.
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Are the new pads made of the same cheap material as the original or did Mercedes change the material to hold up better? I have had many Mercedes but my 2001 at 16K miles has a pad that is disintegrating fast.
Are the new pads made of the same cheap material as the original or did Mercedes change the material to hold up better? I have had many Mercedes but my 2001 at 16K miles has a pad that is disintegrating fast.
John, your question is valid. But I don't believe that the cars mileage is as important as the age. The OE pad on my 2000 lasted 9.5 years and it sounds like yours is pretty much the same. Is 9 years reasonable?
What manufacturer makes the longest lasting pad?
Any documentation?
Thanks Lynns
Just finished the R&R hood mat. Your input was greatly appreciated. Luckily, I did not have to remove the California DAP contact cement on the mat or hood to apply the 3M product. Very tacky surface made installation easy.
Warning: Dap weldwood contact cement in the CA Home Depot stores (large can ~$13.00) DOES NOT WORK. Looks like elmer's glue and does not get tacky enough. Wasted $13 plus foam roller.
Just finished the R&R hood mat. Your input was greatly appreciated. Luckily, I did not have to remove the California DAP contact cement on the mat or hood to apply the 3M product. Very tacky surface made installation easy.
Warning: Dap weldwood contact cement in the CA Home Depot stores (large can ~$13.00) DOES NOT WORK. Looks like elmer's glue and does not get tacky enough. Wasted $13 plus foam roller.
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Not sure whether this is further up the thread, but MB have their own adhesive for this job:
Part# MA000 989 92 71 (which I purchased on 29 June 2006).
Part# MA000 989 92 71 (which I purchased on 29 June 2006).
Thanks but this was mentioned at post #20 above.
FYI, If you want to spread an adhesive with a brush then M-B has a Engine Hood Insulation Special Adhesive, 340 gram / 12 ounce is $16.10 plus ship and handling for p/n 0009899271
Note: this information is from the M-B STAR Service DVD. It is applied with a brush but the 3M product is very easy to apply and I would suggest it at $13.00
Thanks for the heads-up WARNING.
May I suggest, if you still have the receipt, that you return your used can, like I did, for a full refund because "it just doesn't bond".
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This from the 3M web site.
3M™ SUPER TRIM ADHESIVE 08090
• Fast-acting, high-strength, aerosol contact adhesive
• Resistant to heat and plasticizing oils
• Excellent for attaching vinyl, insulation, foam, hood padding and
rubber parts to metal and other surfaces
D I R E C T I O N S F O R U S E :
1. Be sure surfaces are clean and dry
2. Line up nozzle and shake can well
3. Apply 3 coats of adhesive to each surface.
4. Apply third coat in opposite direction as the first two coats
5. Allow adhesive to dry until tacky, minimum of 5 minutes
6. Mate the surfaces to be bonded with firm, uniform pressure
You can buy it directly from 3M on their online store. $15.99 plus shipping and tax. Shop 3M: 3M Yellow Super Trim Adhesive 08090, 19 oz Net Wt
This from the 3M web site.
3M™ SUPER TRIM ADHESIVE 08090
• Fast-acting, high-strength, aerosol contact adhesive
• Resistant to heat and plasticizing oils
• Excellent for attaching vinyl, insulation, foam, hood padding and
rubber parts to metal and other surfaces
D I R E C T I O N S F O R U S E :
1. Be sure surfaces are clean and dry
2. Line up nozzle and shake can well
3. Apply 3 coats of adhesive to each surface.
4. Apply third coat in opposite direction as the first two coats
5. Allow adhesive to dry until tacky, minimum of 5 minutes
6. Mate the surfaces to be bonded with firm, uniform pressure
You can buy it directly from 3M on their online store. $15.99 plus shipping and tax. Shop 3M: 3M Yellow Super Trim Adhesive 08090, 19 oz Net Wt
Does anyone know where to get 3M Super Trim Adhesive (part number 8090) in Canada? 3M does not list it as a product sold in Canada and all of the box stores (Home Depot, etc.) seem to only carry 3M Super 77 (which does not look to have the same temperature resistance according to the 3M website). Home Hardware claims to carry 3M 90 Hi-Strength Adhesive which has been mentioned in this thread, 3M says this can handle 160 degrees F. (part number 4950). Has this been used by anyone? Any help would be appreciated.
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